New shape plots

test25789

Just an idea (maybe I should move this to feature requests):
Could you display sicknesses (LOVE that I can track these now!) as a different colored background (red with thicker lines for start/end dates)?

runalyze

test25789 Yep, will be added (next week)

runalyze

test25789 Injury/Diseases are now shown in the graph

Pedro_McWaldo

Nonayo
Yep seconding this
I liked how the old plot would continue into the future
Please consider adding this back in please!

cw12574

@runalyze, is the VO2max scale going to stay like this? Have lost the functionality I used to have of being able to overlay it over CTL.

Is it not possible to have the different scales next to each other like in the work in progress screenshot earlier in this thread?

Thanks,
Chris

mipapo

cw12574 We plan to keep it like that.

runalyze

Concerning the 'future' part, we only stated that in the German thread on this topic so far: The 'future' outlook was a simple extension by assuming there are no further activities. Are you planning to stop running? That's the only case for which this outlook is correct and I think in that case you won't care about any of those numbers.

The 'future' outlook belongs to a new feature/topic: Being able to plan workouts, to get a full training plan and see the expected future CTL/ATL/A:C/TSB graphs. Yes, that will come some day. But right now our decision is to not reproduce the previous behavior.

cw12574 We understand your point if you're reducing it to only two metrics. And we will try to change the grid for VO2max/A:C/TSB dynamically based on which series are visible. But for now, the grid is fixed and using the full y scale for all metrics creates just a big chaos.

Pedro_McWaldo

runalyze
I can't seem to edit my above comment but I wanted to say I liked the TSB graph going into the future to get a better intuition for peaking phases.

I hope you can add it back in!!

cw12574

mipapo 🙁. Okay, thanks anyway

nolancaster

runalyze What I liked most about the "future" look was being able to see the VO2 max plot with a shorter and shorter rolling average as you went into the future. It would give me a sense for how things are progressing on a shorter timescale than the full 30 day average. I could look at an upcoming race and see approximately where my VO2 max is trending to see if I'm on target. Obviously more runs are going to average in before the race, but it still gave me a general sense of the current trend.

And I don't usually plan to stop running but at the same time I liked the insight on how a potential rest would impact the numbers. Sometimes I do plot recovery periods and have found it useful to be able to project how that will impact training load.

I do think these are small "nice to haves" and understand if you don't want to re-implement them, but I did feel like they contributed to my experience on the site.

cw12574

Don't know whether anyone cared about this as much as me, but I needed to be able to visualise the relationship between VO2max and CTL for my training and planning. The height-capped VO2max axis made this harder:

So I wrote a script which expands the VO2max axis (and VO2max curve) to full height:

If anyone needs the same thing, let me know and I'll share the code. I've loaded it into TamperMonkey so it works whenever I go on Runalyze.

FierceSun

Has the Banister version of the shape plot gone away? I always found that one much more useful on visualizing fitness trends.

runalyze

Yes, Banister has been removed from that plot, as it was never implemented completely. The Banister model is a full alternative to the TSB model, so it's not only a different TSB, also a different ATL/CTL. If we want to support that, we need to support it everywhere. Feel free to raise a feature request for that.

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